Sober Villagers

January 31, 2009

Welcome Emmap

Filed under: Uncategorized — Rocketman @ 7:13 pm
Hi Emmap,
:bye:
Welcome to the sober village.
Glad you are here.

HELL EXPLAINED BY CHEMISTRY STUDENT

Filed under: Uncategorized — CDawg @ 4:15 pm
The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid term.

The answer by one student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well :

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today.

Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell,then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct......leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.'

THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.

Peace,

C

January 30, 2009

109 days, how did that happen?

Filed under: Uncategorized — Nollie @ 9:23 pm
Hello
I've tried loads of times to stop smoking, and for some reason I'm on 109 days now.
I started with Champix, but it was messing with my head, and I chucked it after a month. It did help me through the first couple of weeks though.

If I can do this with a chain-smoking partner smoking in the car, having smokes all around the house, then YOU DEFINITELY CAN DO IT!!!

Honestly, you can.

Fatter, but happier,
Jane





You've been Quit 109 days. $763.00 and 16 days, 16 hours of your life saved

Welcome AdamGilchrist

Filed under: Uncategorized — Rocketman @ 9:09 pm
Hi Adam,

Welcome to the sober village.
Glad to see you here.
:bravo:

*Setting Boundries*

Filed under: Uncategorized — Velvet @ 5:19 pm
Learning how to set boundaries is a vital part of learning to own yourself, of learning to respect yourself, of learning to love yourself. If you never have to set a boundary, then you will never get in touch with who you really are - will never learn to define yourself in a healthy way.

No one deserves to be treated abusively. No one deserves to be lied to and betrayed.

We all deserve to be treated with respect and dignity. If you do not respect yourself, if you do not start awakening to your right to be treated with respect and dignity (and your responsibility in creating that in your life) - then you will be more comfortable being involved with people who abuse you then with people who treat you in loving ways.

Learning to set boundaries is vital to learning to love yourself, and to communicating to other's that you have worth.

There are basically three parts to a boundary. The first two are setting the boundary - the third is what you will do to defend that boundary.

Part 1] If you - Is a description of the behavior you find unacceptable [being as descriptive as possible].

Part 2] I will - Is a description of what action you will take to protect and take care of yourself in the event the other person violates the boundary.

Part 3] If you continue this behavior I will - Is a description of what steps you will take to protect the boundary that you have set.

An example of these three parts would be:

"If you ever hit me again, I will call the police and press charges. I will leave this relationship. If you continue to threaten me, I will get a restraining order and prepare to defend myself in whatever manner is necessary."

It is not always necessary or appropriate to share the third part of this formula with the other
person when setting a boundary:

The first two steps are the actual parts of setting the boundary. The third part is something you need to know for yourself, so that you know what action you can take if the other person violates the boundary. If you set a boundary and expect the other person to abide by it automatically - then you are setting yourself up to be a victim of your expectations.

It is not enough to just set boundaries - it is necessary to be willing to do whatever it takes to enforce them. You need to be willing to go to any length, do whatever it takes to protect yourself.

It is also very important to set consequences that you are willing to enforce. If you are setting boundaries in a relationship, and you are not yet at a point where you are ready to leave the relationship - then don't say that you will leave. You can say that you will start considering all of your options, including leaving - but do not state that you will do something that you are not yet ready to do.

If you set boundaries and do not enforce them, it gives the other person an excuse to continue
with the same old behavior.

Setting a boundary is not making a threat - it is communicating clearly what the consequences will be if the other person continues to treat us in an unacceptable manner. It is a consequence of the other person's behavior.

Setting a boundary is not an attempt to control the other person - although some of the people who you set boundaries with will certainly accuse you of that - just as some will interpret it as a threat. Setting a boundary is a part of the process of defining yourself and what is acceptable to you. It is a major step in taking what control you can of how you allow others to treat you. It is a vital responsibility to yourself and your life.

Setting a boundary is not a more sophisticated way of manipulation - although some people will say they are setting boundaries, when in fact they are attempting to manipulate. The difference between setting a boundary in a good healthy way and manipulating is this:

When you set a boundary you let go of the outcome.


Making Choices

You want the other person to change their behavior - you hope they will. But you need to own all of your choices in order to empower yourself to take responsibility for your life - to stop setting yourself up to be a victim. One of your choices is to remove yourself from a relationship with another person. You can leave a marriage. You can leave a job. You do not have to have any contact with your family of origin. It is vitally important to own all of your choices.

If you do not own that you have a choice to leave an abusive relationship - then neither are you making a choice to stay in the relationship. You are just "going along." Any time you do not own your choices, you are empowering victimization. You will then blame the other person, and/or blame yourself. It is a vital part of the process of learning to love yourself, and taking responsibility for being a co-creator in your life, to own all of your choices.


Self-Empowerment

When you look outside yourself for self-definition and self-worth, you are giving your power away and setting yourself up to be a victim. Society has trained you to be victim. You have been taught to give your power away.

As just one small example of how pervasively you were trained to be a victim, consider how often you have said, or heard someone say, "I have to go to work tomorrow." When a person says "I have to" they are making a victim statement. To say, "I have to get up, and I have to go to work," is a lie. No one forces an adult to get up and go to work. The truth is "I choose to get up and I choose to go to work today, because I choose to not have the consequences of not working."

To say "I choose" is not only the truth, it is empowering and acknowledges an act of self-love. When we "have to" do something we feel like a victim. And because we feel victimized, we will then be angry, and want to punish whomever we see as forcing us do something we do not want to do.

We always have a choice. The choice may sometimes seem to be awful - but in reality, allowing ourselves to buy into the illusion that we are trapped will have far worse consequences in the long run.


Becoming A Friend to Yourself

Learning to set boundaries is a vital part of learning to communicate in a direct and honest manner. It is impossible to have a healthy relationship with someone who has no boundaries, with someone who cannot communicate directly and honestly.

Learning how to set boundaries is a necessary step in learning to be a friend to yourself. It is your responsibility to take care of yourself - to protect yourself when it is necessary. It is impossible to learn to be loving to yourself without owning yourself - and owning your rights and responsibilities as co-creator of your life.

* The preceding boundary section was paraphrased from articles by Robert Burney. Thank you for making this information available.


About Setting Boundaries

Setting boundaries means that you are taking responsibility, being adult and demanding equality and respect in a relationship.

Setting boundaries reflects your right to say NO to those things that aren't right for you.

Setting boundaries is about learning to take care of yourself, no matter what happens, where you go or who you are with.

Boundaries emerge as we learn to value, trust and listen to yourself.

Boundaries emerge from a belief that what you want, need, like and dislike is important.

Boundaries emerge from deep decisions about what you believe you deserve and don't deserve.


Tips for Setting Boundaries

11] Anger, rage, complaining, whining, and feeling threatened, "suffocated" or victimized are clues to
boundaries you need to set.

12] When you identify a need to set a boundary or a limit with someone, do it clearly, preferably without anger
and in as few words as possible.

13] You cannot simultaneously set a limit with someone and also take care of their feelings - they may be
hurt, angry or disappointed with you.

14] When you first begin to set boundaries, you may feel ashamed and afraid.

15] Be prepared to follow through by acting in congruence with the boundaries you set.

16] You'll be tested when you set boundaries.

17] Some people are happy to respect your boundaries.

18] A support system can be helpful as you strive to establish and enforce boundaries.

19] You'll set boundaries when you are ready and not a minute sooner.

10] There's a satisfying side to setting boundaries - it feels good.


Examples of Setting Boundaries

"You don't have a right to tell me what to think, or invalidate my feelings."

"Don't vent your anger on me, I won't have it."

"This is mine, you don't have a right to use it as yours."

"I won't accept your belittling jokes, your criticism or your condescending attitude toward me."

"I won't be disrespected - If you won't respect me, then stay away."

"Keep your hands off me."

"Stop doing that... or I'll leave" [ report you; file charges etc.]

"Don't try to tell me what to do."

"If we're going to have a working relationship, I need honesty, respect and equality."

"I need to communicate when we have a misunderstanding."

"I need openness and sharing in a relationship - your witholding is making our relationship not satisfying to me."


Personal Boundaries - How do maintain them

Ask directly for what you want. This shows who you are to others.

Nurture yourself and your integrity. This creates an inner, intuitive sense that lets you know when a
relationship has become hurtful, abusive or invasive.

Be objective about others' behavior toward you without getting caught in their drama.

Maintain a bottom line - a limit to how many times you will allow someone to say no, to lie to you, to
disappoint you, or betray you before you will admit the painful reality and move on.

Change the focus of trust from other to yourself. Don't put yourself in someone else's hands or expect
infallibility. Trust that you can allow others to be normally human and still have satisfying intimacy.


Affirmations of Your Basic Rights

Nobody has the right to know my mind or my business or to tell me what to think, what to feel or what to
do.

I have a right to my own thoughts, feelings, values and beliefs.

What I share with others about matters that concern me is determined by what feels right to me - not what
they want.

If people are abusive or disrespectful to me, I have a right to tell them so, to ask them to stop and to avoid
them.

I don't have to be nice to people who aren't nice to me.

I don't need abuse or to be disrespected.

I have a need and right to love myself, respect myself and to stand up for myself.

I have a right to be who I am and to harmlessly live my own life regardless of whether others don't like it.

I don't have to feel guilty for not behaving as others might want me to or for not giving other what they
expect of me.

I accept myself just as I am in the moment with whatever thoughts and feelings I have.

I accept my right to my imperfection and shortcomings and don't feel guilty for not being perfect.

I believe that we should do unto others as we would have them do unto us - to be treated with love and
respect.

I believe that if I am true to myself and live by the highest truth I know, that things will turn out for the best
in the long run.

!Push!

Filed under: Uncategorized — Done-With-It! @ 11:03 am




:smiley_aayx:


:yeah:



*Please Note*

Filed under: Uncategorized — Done-With-It! @ 10:04 am
The Eating Disorder Forum and The Self Harm Forum are no longer Private forums. We are going to try this on a trial basis. We won't switch them
until the weekend. If anyone has any concerns about this please let me know.

If you have any posts you would like to keep private just let Chy or I know and we will take of it.

Again feel free to let me know if you have any concerns on this. :smiley_aaxn:

*Please Note*

Filed under: Uncategorized — Done-With-It! @ 10:03 am
The Eating Disorder Forum and The Self Harm Forum are no longer Private forums. We are going to try this on a trial basis. We won't switch them
until the weekend. If anyone has any concerns about this please let me know.

If you have any posts you would like to keep private just let Chy or I know and we will take of it.

Again feel free to let me know if you have any concerns on this. :smiley_aaxn:

*Please Note*

Filed under: Uncategorized — Done-With-It! @ 10:02 am
The Eating Disorder Forum and The Self Harm Forum are no longer Private forums. We are going to try this on a trial basis. We won't switch them
until the weekend. If anyone has any concerns about this please let me know.

If you have any posts you would like to keep private just let Chy or I know and we will take of it.

Again feel free to let me know if you have any concerns on this. :smiley_aaxn:

January 29, 2009

A Nightmare? Maybe?

Filed under: Uncategorized — Coffeebean @ 11:46 am
We've been feeding the birds for a while now. And of course, if you feed them into the winter you have to keep feding them. So we have. So there's a spot on the ground we have cleared for their food, right? Well, in the snow bank around the area, there are two holes. And there is something else eating that bird food...not squirrels (well, they eat it, too, but they didn't make the holes)...not chipmunks.....RATS!!! There are RATS in my yard!!! OMG!!! They better not get in my house!!! Of all things I never considered...I never thought of rats coming! ACK!!!

So, I think there are maybe 2 or 3 of them that I have seen, but I'm thinking if there are that many, there are many, many more. Right?
Can't probably put out poison, cause you know, don't want to poison the birds or squirrels. Not sure what to do? I feel like an idiot or something. But we've always fed the birds, for years, and I never saw any rats before!!! Maybe they've just managed to stay out of sight? I don't know.

So, what would you guys do? Stop feeding the birds and get rid of all the seed and stuff out there? I am just imagining that they will somehow get in my house, and I wonder if the food disappears if they WILL try to get in the house then to look for food. I am just beside myself! What do I do? Anyone have an experience like this before?
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